- Islam Uber Alles

Islam Uber Alles (Antwort)

Abu — Tue, 02 Sep 2003 00:04:44 +0000

I agree he Turks are much better in General than
the Arabs... unless you´re a Kurd, that is.

The Turks I know in the USA and elsewhere are also
a Credit/asset to Societies they live in.

... Of cousre that´s becuase they´ve neatly theown
away the Terrorist manual... the Koran.
The further from that book you live, the more
human you are.

Islam Uber Alles (Antwort)

Nora — Mon, 01 Sep 2003 23:16:21 +0000

Oh, don´t get me wrong. I am not playing down the
problem of Islam as a general threat. I just don´t
feel threatened by the Muslims (well adjusted
Turks) I come across here.

I was in Scandinavia in June and I was amazed to
see at the beach in Denmark girls swimming in full
islamic garb. Just a little thing, but that´s
something I´ve never ever seen here.

I admire Daniel Pipes, in fact I am a subscriber
to his newsletter as well. Maybe I´ll make up my
mind and ask him what figures he´s got for
Germany.

Islam Uber Alles (Antwort)

Abu@Nora. — Mon, 01 Sep 2003 19:59:35 +0000

Thanks for the distinction between Turks and other
Muslims/Arabs.

But:

Something Rotten in Denmark?
by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard

In German: http://de.danielpipes.org/article/457

A Muslim group in Denmark announced a few days ago
that a $30,000 bounty would be paid for the murder
of several prominent Danish Jews, a threat that
garnered wide international notice. Less well
known is that this is just one problem associated
with Denmark´s approximately 200,000 Muslim
immigrants. The key issue is that many of them
show little desire to fit into their adopted
country.

For years, Danes lauded multiculturalism and
insisted they had no problem with the Muslim
customs - until one day they found that they did.
Some major issues:

* Living on the dole: Third-world immigrants -
most of them Muslims from countries such as
Turkey, Somalia, Pakistan, Lebanon and Iraq -
constitute 5 percent of the population but consume
upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending.

* Engaging in crime: Muslims are only 4 percent of
Denmark´s 5.4 million people but make up a
majority of the country´s convicted rapists, an
especially combustible issue given that
practically all the female victims are non-Muslim.
Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in
other crimes.

* Self-imposed isolation: Over time, as Muslim
immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to
mix with the indigenous population. A recent
survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim
immigrants would readily marry a Dane.

* Importing unacceptable customs: Forced marriages
- promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a
male cousin in the home country, then compelling
her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are
one problem.

Another is threats to kill Muslims who convert out
of Islam. One Kurdish convert to Christianity, who
went public to explain why she had changed
religion, felt the need to hide her face and
conceal her identity, fearing for her life.

* Fomenting anti-Semitism: Muslim violence
threatens Denmark´s approximately 6,000 Jews, who
increasingly depend on police protection. Jewish
parents were told by one school principal that she
could not guarantee their children´s safety and
were advised to attend another institution.
Anti-Israel marches have turned into anti-Jewish
riots. One organization, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, openly
calls on Muslims to "kill all Jews . . . wherever
you find them."

* Seeking Islamic law: Muslim leaders openly
declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once
Denmark´s Muslim population grows large enough - a
not-that-remote prospect. If present trends
persist, one sociologist estimates, every third
inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be
Muslim....""

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/450

Islam Uber Alles (Antwort)

Nora @ Abu — Mon, 01 Sep 2003 19:02:13 +0000

Most Muslims in Germany are Turks and I don´t see
them falling for radical Islam yet, nor are they
outbreeding uns, again yet. They have contributed
decisively to the German "economic miracle" and
deserve to be part of our society if they chose to
become one.

I do, however, resent the politically correct
proactive obedience towards other factions. It
seems forgotten already that Germany was (and
probably is) one of Al Quaida´s footholds in the
West.

http://www.henryk-broder.de/html/fr_stein.html

Islam Uber Alles (Antwort)

Duni — Mon, 01 Sep 2003 19:01:59 +0000

(only terrotize us)...
but they can/Do outbreed/ommograt/convert us.

Rabbits.

no, cause "THEY" are not homogenous !

Islam Uber Alles (Antwort)

Abu Afak — Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:13:20 +0000

ap--

The The Philippines is only 5% Muslim and yet they
are wreaking Havoc there.

(see ´Abu Sayyef´)

If ypou add immigration to the MUlsim Birth rate,
Germany will eventually feel the effects yet more.

France is in even worse shape, with Muslims
already influencing the Government´s Policies.

They can´t beat the West with the Sword
(only terrotize us)...
but they can/Do outbreed/ommograt/convert us.

Rabbits.

Islam Uber Alles (Antwort)

Nora — Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:36:10 +0000

Seh ich auch eher so, zumindest kurz- und
mittelfristig.

Hoffentlich haben wir recht.

Islam Uber Alles (Antwort)

ap — Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:02:42 +0000

Abu Afak schrieb:

Islam Uber Alles
By Stephen Brown
FrontPageMagazine.com | August 29, 2003

Their aim is eventually

to have representatives sitting in the Bundestag
(the German parliament); and, to that end, they
are urging their followers to acquire German
citizenship, so they will then be eligible to
vote. About 500,000 Muslims from among Germany´s
three and a half million Muslim population
currently possess voting rights in the Federal
Republic.

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kapier ich nich, was daran jetzt so interessant
sein soll. wieder so ne schnappsidee... wer kann
ersthaft glauben, alle moslems in deutschland
würden diese partei wählen? die meisten haben
andere sorgen als so einen käse- und selbst wenn,
die partei würde höchstens die 5-prozent-hürde
knacken, 3,5 mio sind auch nur 4 % der
gesamtbevölkerung. und weil es ne islamische
minipartei im bundestag gibt, werden auch nich
plötzlich alle deutschen zum islam konvertieren...

Islam Uber Alles (Antwort)

Duni — Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:26:50 +0000

http://www.hinduunity.com/

http://www.geocities.com/AntiJihad/home.html

Islam Uber Alles

Abu Afak — Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:49:01 +0000

Islam Uber Alles
By Stephen Brown
FrontPageMagazine.com | August 29, 2003

Muslim extremists in Germany have adopted a new
and disturbing tactic in their crusade to turn
Europe into an Islamic state.

According to the German intelligence agency, the
Office for the Defense of the Federal
Constitution, Muslim fundamentalists intend to
establish their own political party that will take
part in German elections. Their aim is eventually
to have representatives sitting in the Bundestag
(the German parliament); and, to that end, they
are urging their followers to acquire German
citizenship, so they will then be eligible to
vote. About 500,000 Muslims from among Germany´s
three and a half million Muslim population
currently possess voting rights in the Federal
Republic.

German intelligence agencies say the drive for
electoral legitimacy is part of a two-prong
strategy Islamists are pursuing in their country.
On the one hand, they are making efforts to
present themselves to the outside world as
tolerant, loyal upholders of law and order, while
simultaneously secretly working to undermine the
existing system. The conservative Interior
Minister for the state of Hesse, Volker Bouffier,
calls their activities an infiltration that
represents "a creeping danger for our social
order."

A sermon recorded at a mosque in Bavaria, outlined
in an intelligence report, confirms the German
agencies´ findings. After first calling America
and Britain "devils" and Israel "a bloodsucking
vampire", its venomous contents continued as
follows:

"The Europeans were once our slaves; today it is
the Muslims. This must change. We must drive the
unbelievers into deepest hell. We must stick
together and hold our peace until the time comes.
You can´t see anything yet, but everything is
being prepared in secret. You must hold yourself
in
readiness for the right moment. We must exploit
democracy for our cause. We must cover Europe with
mosques and schools."...""

http://frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?I
D=9583